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“is what is the power in this relationship, right? That's…” — The Vergecast at 24:26

“is what is the power in this relationship, right? That's like the iPhone had all the power because it's the thing you're holding, right? Do you want to be Apple and Google? Right. And it's like, I buy that much more powerfully in a piece of dedicated hardware that does lots of other things. It's hard to see how…”

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