“companies now that want to be seen as like, we're so…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 45:19
“companies now that want to be seen as like, we're so future facing, we're like, our process is ahead of everyone else is like, no chance of getting a catch up. And they're all bragging about how much they're spending. So there's like, right now, there's a push to be like, each”
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