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“But you don't see any of that stuff. You don't see the…” — Software Engineering Daily at 45:29

“But you don't see any of that stuff. You don't see the production of this thing. And that's what I love about Magic. That's a lovely way to end an interview. We've talked about product and engineering and design, how it works collaborating across those in general and with the agency world of Metalab.”

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