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“But again, this is all kind of like ad hoc. It's not. I…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:08:53

“But again, this is all kind of like ad hoc. It's not. I mean, you try to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. And the demoing is pretty interesting because, I mean, showing off something because you're probably getting there faster, you probably need more feedback.”

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