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“Yeah, but also, look, I think that the people working for…” — Pod Save America at 31:59

“Yeah, but also, look, I think that the people working for Trump view it themselves as having no choice. They have to do his bidding or they get pushed out, so. Yeah, I think, like, there's a little bit of both. They can't predict the future, you know, we won't be, like, fatalistic. No, but they could also just not do…”

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