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“That's what she says. That's not our characterization.…” — Pod Save America at 43:29

“That's what she says. That's not our characterization. She's a matador. Yeah, which is an ironic term, right? Because it's like, isn't he trying to, you know, it's like, that sounds like, it sounds like, are you welcoming that kind of culture? I can tell.”

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