“Where is the strategy that goes from shutdown to an…” — Pod Save America at 12:45
“Where is the strategy that goes from shutdown to an endgame that gets Donald Trump to change his behavior? No one can articulate one because there isn't one. I sound like I'm super negative on this because I think it's better for us to debate this. I'm genuinely torn. I don't know what the right thing to do is. I…”
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