“People thought that crime was going up even when it was…” — Pod Save America at 27:12
“People thought that crime was going up even when it was going down. So there's clearly just like so much fear of crime, mostly from the media, that it distorts views. And I'm just not sure how it cuts. Well, I definitely think you can't try to tell people, much like the economy, you can't tell people that crime is…”
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