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“better because he's essentially a surrogate for her, not…” — Pod Save America at 45:56

“better because he's essentially a surrogate for her, not just her bragging. Yeah, she went back to, like, aspirations and ambitions, but she didn't go back to the details that much. Yeah, I think a win will be a debate in which it felt like Tim Walz was kind of putting J.D. Vance... It's very similar. It's sort of a…”

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