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“I do think they can be more aggressive. I think they can…” — Pod Save America at 58:44

“I do think they can be more aggressive. I think they can fight for the news cycle. And I think that, you know, you don't get that back where one day you get a bunch of good stories and you poll that night and you say, well, shit, we didn't move. You got to keep building stuff up. So polling shows a big gender gap…”

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