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“that which I had always detested. But I just didn't…” — Pod Save America at 1:05:45

“that which I had always detested. But I just didn't, because I was old. If you see the documentary, it's pretty clear that I'm in the midst of the aging process. I had, like you, I had maybe a better view, but who has an idea of what the job entails? It's not easy. And I had a platform. I thought it out. I talked to…”

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