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“Today, we're talking about bird flu, but in a pretty…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 1:47

“Today, we're talking about bird flu, but in a pretty decoder way. Lauren Leffer, who recently wrote a piece for The Verge about bird flu and how it's becoming a forever problem, is joining me on the show, and we're going to talk about the system, structure, and culture that might control the bird flu, and those that…”

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