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“There's one thing I know about living in this country.…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 26:54

“There's one thing I know about living in this country. It's very hard to break that. People want to make the money and people want low prices. And I don't think that's a great mechanism to run public health against, but I can see how it would operate here. The thing that is challenging that, I think, in the realest…”

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