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“would make this job difficult for even a credible leader…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 3:35

“would make this job difficult for even a credible leader of our public health services. Like I said, I wanted to talk about this in a decoder framework, and there's one big difference from COVID that I really wanted to push on. Industrial agriculture in America is a big business, and the bird flu is a threat to that…”

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