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“in addition to like, you can take these things and I think…” — The Vergecast at 30:09

“in addition to like, you can take these things and I think you can make them in a way that still feels sort of creative and pure. Why not then do the like, ruthless growth hacking bit on the other side of it? You're like, I've made a thing that I'm very proud of and now I'm going to pay an army of strangers to clip…”

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