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“No, because I don't like that kind of engagement as a…” — The Vergecast at 32:12

“No, because I don't like that kind of engagement as a consumer, as a consumer of content. I think that, this is language I made up, but it's like there's lean forward consumption and lean back consumption. And I refer to lean forward consumption as sort of a passive consumption. Like I have some time to fill, so I'm…”

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