“So Howard, when did you and your NPR colleague, Daniel's…” — Up First from NPR at 22:24
“So Howard, when did you and your NPR colleague, Daniel's wordling, begin to investigate this? About three weeks after the disaster, you know, I was based in Utah in 1986 and I had heard a brief local news story which said that Thiacall was coerced into approving a launch.”
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