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“You aren't NASA. You aren't Thi-Cal. I haven't heard any…” — Up First from NPR at 50:55

Up First from NPR Challenger at 40: Lessons from a tragedy

“You aren't NASA. You aren't Thi-Cal. I haven't heard any of those people. He's never gotten confirmation that he did do his job and he was a good worker and he told the truth.”

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