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“I also reached out to former Thi-Cal executive Bob Lund…” — Up First from NPR at 51:44

Up First from NPR Challenger at 40: Lessons from a tragedy

“I also reached out to former Thi-Cal executive Bob Lund and he called Ebling. Now remember Lund put on his management hat before overruling the engineers and he told Ebling you did all that you could do.”

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