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“Right. There's just no, there's no other way to describe…” — The Vergecast at 31:43

“Right. There's just no, there's no other way to describe it. They announced the Siri product. It was supposed to use the apps on your phone for you. They control the operating system. They control the user interface. Famously, they control application development and app distribution. Like they, they have all the…”

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