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“Like, they just can't do it. Like, they don't have a…” — The Vergecast at 39:41

“Like, they just can't do it. Like, they don't have a model. They don't have a team that can do it. But they have the applications. They have the user interface. They have the hardware device. They have the ability to build the next generation hardware. Like, they can do everything. And they're, like, paralyzed by…”

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