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“So just to be clear here, you know, for our listeners'…” — CyberWire Daily at 26:25

“So just to be clear here, you know, for our listeners' sake, like the people who entered this program in good faith, the deal that they were engaging with was that they would, in exchange for agreeing to work for the federal government for X number of years, they would get scholarship money to continue their studies.…”

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