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“So I guess what do you make of that? Yeah, so I'll tell…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 44:40

“So I guess what do you make of that? Yeah, so I'll tell you what I make of it. And here's what I think is really interesting about some of these figures who were on the once kind of fringe elements of the right who have in some ways seen the errors of that way of ideological thinking.”

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