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“I mean, I think John Gans, who's a sort of, he's a great…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 1:21:45

The Ezra Klein Show Chris Rufo Thinks the Right Can Control This. I Don’t.

“I mean, I think John Gans, who's a sort of, he's a great sub-stack and is a sort of interesting history based theorist of American politics.”

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