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“And in my view, the game is simultaneously to improve our…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 2:02:29

The Ezra Klein Show Chris Rufo Thinks the Right Can Control This. I Don’t.

“And in my view, the game is simultaneously to improve our own capacities, but also to win in the arena. And so I oftentimes, and this conversation is interesting because you oftentimes you're moving forward.”

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