“had done a lot of graphic design for a company. And I…” — Software Engineering Daily at 4:06
“had done a lot of graphic design for a company. And I started to realize that I liked graphic design, but I didn't like doing graphic design for other people because they wanted me to design things that I didn't agree with. Things like, oh, can you make this fire yellow on this purple background? And I was 17 and a…”
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