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“maybe I'll say it in this way too, I felt that my career…” — Good Hang with Amy Poehler at 49:37

“maybe I'll say it in this way too, I felt that my career was very similar in that way. I would show up, I would do the work. I was a practitioner, but I was always sort of a bit marginalized. And in a way, just like, oh yeah, that's great. But that, that serves that purpose. But it's never the engine”

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