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“30s. Well, we're looking at spreads across the entirety of…” — Bloomberg Surveillance at 24:37

“30s. Well, we're looking at spreads across the entirety of the curve. But if we just take the individual tenors themselves, we can break this down into inflation expectations versus real yield. It's real yield that has driven the rate move in the last few weeks. And this is almost all attributable to term premium.…”

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