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“I'm obsessed with this case. I know There was a secret…” — Crime Junkie at 36:41

“I'm obsessed with this case. I know There was a secret testimony that Chuck was legally required to be a part of And it involved a case that might require witnesses to need actual physical protection that he was offered and he said no Check, yes, there's a gold scam that might be related but might not be related”

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