“I know. No, I was surprised. Oh, nice. I mean, that was…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 47:47
“I know. No, I was surprised. Oh, nice. I mean, that was part of it. It's like, hey, look, we're falling behind in like, you know, I don't know exactly all the reason. But I imagine also about like attracting really good talent is like, hey, look, if we have like the modern software stack,”
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