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“what people think the genius is, is that he asked for four…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 26:21

“what people think the genius is, is that he asked for four parachutes because it seemed like he was going to take himself and like three hostages. So that's like, Hey, we can't give him dead shoots because you don't know which one he's going to wear. Right. So that was like, they said, like it was one of the genius…”

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