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“Cooper would have jumped. So the problem that they found…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 1:08:21

“Cooper would have jumped. So the problem that they found before they even tested with dummies is that, like, they don't have dummies that weigh. They didn't have a dummy that weighed. Right. So they used just, like, a... Make a dummy. Think of, like, a football sled with a couple plates on the back, weighed about 200…”

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