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“I feel even more so now, and a lot of that's because of…” — The Talking Pictures Podcast at 22:03

“I feel even more so now, and a lot of that's because of just the great support I've gotten from my wife, Laura, and my two kids who basically told me that if I didn't take this, they were going to beat me up. The threat of violence always makes things go easier. Yes, yes. I'll never forget where we were. We were out…”

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