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“put out into the community. And the technology part of it…” — The Talking Pictures Podcast at 32:12

“put out into the community. And the technology part of it was great. That kept me young. I'm sure you're finding the same thing. That was probably what I missed about it the most. And I did, I did like writing. I had a column and there were columns and things that I really enjoyed writing. So it was that, but when I…”

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