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“that was what I had to kind of give up unknowingly. Like I…” — The Talking Pictures Podcast at 45:51

“that was what I had to kind of give up unknowingly. Like I didn't, I didn't really know that was coming. That would have been told me it would have been a surprise because I'm like, I'm just moving over 20 feet. But my attention is on my desk and the copy that's coming in and making decisions and taking phone calls…”

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