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“keeping your website up. I mean, it's just, it's just, it…” — The Talking Pictures Podcast at 50:13

“keeping your website up. I mean, it's just, it's just, it can get, it can get crazy. Yeah. And I think that that's where the stress combines because if you have, if you work at, if you're used to working at a certain level of excellence, that just throwing it out there isn't an option. You want to make sure what…”

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