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“And I, you know, I remember, I just have always remembered…” — The Talking Pictures Podcast at 57:36

“And I, you know, I remember, I just have always remembered that. I just, you know, what's fair is fair. You couldn't expect him. He did not want me to expect him to come to my aid every time somebody disagreed with me and I was going to have to fend for myself from now on. But we saw that, you know, you get one. So…”

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