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“he was the first gay man that I knew. He's my favorite…” — The Talking Pictures Podcast at 1:04:49

“he was the first gay man that I knew. He's my favorite all-time teacher. I never thought of him as gay. We all knew he was gay, but he didn't talk about it. And the fact that that, that life lesson in and of itself is as valuable of the lesson of tolerance that he taught us without ever uttering a word about it was…”

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