“The first step in the process of, of what it feels like to…” — The Talking Pictures Podcast at 8:25
“The first step in the process of, of what it feels like to leave something you've loved for a very long time and having to deal with that. And so I have, I've found in the last four months that I'm much, I'm really interested in how people are navigating these, these troubled waters and coming out successful on the…”
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