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“you know, wherever, Ames, Iowa, or whatever, gradually…” — The Talking Pictures Podcast at 14:56

“you know, wherever, Ames, Iowa, or whatever, gradually increased my coverage until I, you know, fourth editor of the Chicago Tribune. While I'm standing in my house in Kenosha, Wisconsin in 2019, I never left. I became very entrenched in the newspaper culture in Kenosha. We bought a house here. We had two beautiful…”

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