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“responsible and law-abiding mantra, in part because I…” — Cato Audio at 30:25

“responsible and law-abiding mantra, in part because I think this historical tradition approach has got a lot of problems that were probably not sufficiently evident to the majority in the Bruin case, but man, they're going to come out of the woodwork now, and we're going to see them in cases involving things like…”

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