“Yes. And part of it is, you know, people feel, I mean…” — Pod Save America at 24:17
“Yes. And part of it is, you know, people feel, I mean, part of the shame of or the challenge of the media environment is that people are just so jaundiced about what government can do and what we can do about what we can do together. But the other thing that they should be deeply worried about is we're back to”
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