“But it's not. Yeah, it's kind of a... You know, so that's…” — Pod Save America at 43:40
“But it's not. Yeah, it's kind of a... You know, so that's a, that's a side like this. But look, you know, I'm always excited by young dynamic leaders who can make appeals to idealism. And, and in that, even though I said what I said earlier, he did evoke in his comments throughout”
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