“But I mean, I hope he gets out there. I think, you know…” — Pod Save America at 44:53
“But I mean, I hope he gets out there. I think, you know, and as I said, one of the things he's going to have to be alert to is that Obama learned is when you come out with this kind of Bally who, you know, you don't get the advantage other candidates get to kind of work your material”
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