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“And I wonder what you thought about that argument. Well…” — Pod Save America at 53:53

“And I wonder what you thought about that argument. Well, first of all, you want one of the other things she said to Shane Goldmacher at the Times was that essentially she didn't want to run a kind of pyrric race. If she ran, she was going to run to win and she needed to know. So, you fit those”

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