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“Well, first of all, and I know this wasn't a first of all…” — Pod Save America at 55:54

Pod Save America Democrats' Closing Argument (with David Axelrod)

“Well, first of all, and I know this wasn't a first of all question. I just want to make two points about it. One is I think the wrong impulse is to say, you know, Trump is not a tear down.”

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