“suggest that kind of answer is because the story is moving…” — Pod Save America at 23:33
“suggest that kind of answer is because the story is moving really fast, like we said, and you don't want to be the person who knifes Joe Biden first, but you also don't want to sound silly if things are different in a week or two. Of course, like if your goal is different, if you view Biden as a political liability…”
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