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“What we need is to have a debate about the stakes for the…” — Pod Save America at 30:16

“What we need is to have a debate about the stakes for the country in November between Donald Trump and the Democrats, between the Republicans and the Democrats. That's what we need. This is a conversation that focuses completely on what is at stake. And if we can do that, we believe we can win. As long as we're…”

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