“win this fight? And what does a win look like? So whenever…” — Pod Save America at 46:46
“win this fight? And what does a win look like? So whenever you were dealing with a budget or government funding shutdown, there's a political win and a substantive win. They're not always the same thing. So let's talk about the political win first. What Democrats, as you point out at this point, they have the high…”
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