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“is to do what they did at the end of the last shutdown…” — Pod Save America at 48:30

“is to do what they did at the end of the last shutdown, which is to quit with nothing, to fold their cards before getting anything else. If the DHS has to be shut down through the election, through the swearing-in of the Democratic majority in the House and maybe the Senate, then that's what has to happen here.…”

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